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Arden88 | 12/16/2006 @937 | Edit edit post
Note: i posted this in another thread but it's probably more appropriate to place it here.

Hey guys, it's been ages. Work and work you know how it goes.

Anyhow a couple designers at my work place downloaded the photoshop CS3 Beta, so far that we can see:

  • There is this new Tool dock that sits on the side of the screen which houses all the palettes and such
  • The UI is improved you can open and collapse multiple palettes from a single button on the new tool 'dock'
  • The UI look is a little more darker and more tab like , although you can go back to the classic style if you wish.
  • Photoshop boots up noticably faster than CS2 versions, and for macs with Intel chips: your time has finally come. Should be very fast.
  • It runs faster in general.
  • There is a new funtionality to the magic wand tool that can better isolate colours and parts of a picture, I'm not exactly sure how it works, most likely luminosity, but it's impressive for what it does. Example you can easily wand out objects within a picture by click and dragging, it works procedurally by dragging. so you can click and drag arouind the 'beach ball' in a picture or something more complex and it will kinda snap to the image and put a marquee around it. Think of a much improved magic lasso. Use it dont' abuse it.
  • Some new useless filters
  • Not too too sure but it looks like you can apply filters to layers, like a layer effect, so it's not permanant. So you can blur something and then take it off later.
The beta was released only for a very very short while (2 hrs?) and only for registered users, and then taken down, I'm not sure if they have put it back up but luckily two of our guys managed to snag it.

We are in deadline mode here but if I get the chance i'll personally take a more thorough review of it later.

Hmm so that's what i've seen from it so far, we've only spent a few mintues with it, but the biggest things are the performance boost, UI redesign, and Universal Binary support for Intel Mac. oh man i'm so exicted to get it for my mbp.

The full version will no doubt be more refined but, IMHO it you run an intel mac this will will be a MUST have, if not then the performance and new tidbits will be worth it for a professional, this shit is always expensive. However CS3 PS by no means overshadows CS2 by anymeans in terms of allowance for what is currently industry work. Like most tools within a reasonable range it's just what you do with it.

That's PS3 Beta review at a glance.

me.

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Arden88 | 12/16/2006 @950 | Editedit post

" -Not too too sure but it looks like you can apply filters to layers, like a layer effect, so it's not permanant. So you can blur something and then take it off later. "

UPDATE: CONFIRMED and it's awesome, when you turn an object into a smart object all layers applied to it will be a 'smart' filter and can be removed, hidden or readjusted just like a layer effects.

me.

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Arden88 | 12/16/2006 @959 | Editedit post
update:

"-Photoshop boots up noticably faster than CS2 versions, and for macs with Intel chips: your time has finally come. Should be very fast. "

On the first boot it's still slow, however after you've loaded it once, and close it down. Reopening it is almost instantaneous, couple seconds tops. I'm not sure if it's sucking up memory, not fully unloading or just caching cleverly.

Mind you this is the beta version so I'd expect even better later on.

me

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Martin | 12/17/2006 @010 | Editedit post
Very cool stuff Edward. Can you tell us something about the specs of the machine you are running it on?

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Manifestant | 12/17/2006 @231 | Editedit post
Appreciate your effort on giving a review of this, Ed. I've yet to install it (though it is downloaded at first hour of release ;) ), not till I move my physical home location.

You mention it is faster in general. Does this mean that if you have a 2400x3600 canvas with a 1200 pixel paintbrush, that during applying the paint, it won't "drag" in a timelapse (where you make a swipe and it'll take a few seconds to show)?

I'm still running a P4 1.9Ghz 1GB Rambus. Not sure if this timelapse has happend to anyone using any other PS.
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JordanRoots | 12/17/2006 @251 | Editedit post
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 Manifestant wrote on 12/17 @231
Appreciate your effort on giving a review of this, Ed. I've yet to install it (though it is downloaded at first hour of release ;) ), not till I move my physical home location.

You mention it is faster in general. Does this mean that if you have a 2400x3600 canvas with a 1200 pixel paintbrush, that during applying the paint, it won't "drag" in a timelapse (where you make a swipe and it'll take a few seconds to show)?

I'm still running a P4 1.9Ghz 1GB Rambus. Not sure if this timelapse has happend to anyone using any other PS.

yeah, I have this timelapse too, and I hate that, I guess my computer is too slow... Ive got a pentium4 3ghz 1gb ram and yet it still does this "timelapse", but only when I work in an around 2000*2000 canva­. So you're not the only one, manifestant.

I appreciate this review! I thought it would just be another ps version with nothing really new, but you convinved me, I'll get it. This layer thingy seems awesome. what color is the new ps? CS had a green/orange feather, CS2 had a blue/green feather, and CS3 ?
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jerrembear | 12/17/2006 @338 | Editedit post
HOLY COW ITS SO FAST!!! i dont even have scratch disk set up yet and its blazin'.

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Martin | 12/17/2006 @557 | Editedit post
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yeah, I have this timelapse too
Yes. My new machine (p4 dualcore 3 GHz with 2 GB DDR2 Ram) is very powerful compared to my old machine, yet selecting a dual brush with a large size is the instant formula for lag and crashes with PS CS2.

I am downloading the trial now, because Edward made me very curious about the speed. I hope that they have solves the type editing issues with large files and grouped layers. I am tired of waiting 30 sec for a type layer to react.

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JordanRoots | 12/17/2006 @695 | Editedit post
I have PS CS one and PS CS2 installed on my machine. But I mainly work in CS one because I don't really like CS2. I don't know why but with CS2, I can't right click on an image and select, "edit with photoshop". and CS2 is WAY slower on my computer than CS one. if It is wasn't just of those little bugs and slowtimes, I would keep CS2 and get rid of CS one. I only use CS2 when I want to select numerous layers and use the free transform tool for all thoses layers at the same time.

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Almost-Human | 12/17/2006 @756 | Editedit post
Well thought out and appreciated review....

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Manifestant | 12/17/2006 @773 | Editedit post
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 Crazyboy wrote on 12/17 @695
and CS2 is WAY slower on my computer than CS one.

I'm wondering if Bridge is causing this (if you have the entire Suite installed). I removed Bridge from my CS2 install, but the initial load time still remains as slow as any other PS.

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 CrazyboyI don't know why but with CS2, I can't right click on an image and select, "edit with photoshop".
At the moment, I forget where you can choose this option, depending on your OS, you can opt to have this in your right-click options. I know someone here can guide you through that. I have it on mine, but I just woke up and am in a daze on where to go.

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Wysiwyg | 12/17/2006 @987 | Editedit post
After the holidays I'll download/review the beta for some added input...good stuff so far.

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pawlack | 12/18/2006 @015 | Editedit post
I just tested it :) It rocks so far for me :) My next step is to dump cs2 and stick to cs3

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Arden88 | 12/18/2006 @052 | Editedit post
Update: a little more

Hey guys, in repsonse to a couple questions we have a couple different machines in the studio but the one I was testing it out on was an older one.

Specs: 2.8 ghz P4, XP pro service pack2 , 1 gig RAM, fresh boot, relatively clean computer. But the box is crap not good venting. This matters.

So I only had PSbcs3 open on this comp, it's not so bad but can really use more ram. 2 gigs these days is really the new standard IMO. I gots to have my Itunes and movies.

Anyhow so on the boot i counted probably around 30 seconds off a cold boot, close it down PS and reopened it. I did this a few times, somtimes it took 3 seconds sometimes 1. So I dunno what's up with that. I did however crash it closing it down once, no biggie.

For the painters out there, I made a 3000x3000 canvas and started some brushes, with the stock airbrush brush movement was smooth until i got to around 800 px brush then i would get a slight stagger, but nothing bad. With a more complex custom brush there was the same delay but this machine is not so good IMO.

At 1200 px there is that big delay if you go fast. But I need to try on one of the newer machines. So for painting I do not see a huge improvement but it is better. Caveat, this was not a thorough test, just playing around with it.

I dont' know if PS will have a really good solution to this because it's not natively a painting program, so when you select a gigantic brush and swipe fast with it, your computer CPU spikes and goes through the roof, and can't keep up with your hand movement. But again lets wait for final.

The more I used this new UI the better I liked it, CS2 kinda sucked. I aways fail to see the palette i want even though it's on the screen somewhere. The design of the panels is better, slightly Mac like, having them docked on a slighly tranparent backing all together works well, especially if you have a decent amount of screen space.

Filters like blur and sharpen work much faster, particularly when you select an option and wait for the preview, it comes up fast and readjusts fast. Good.

There seems to be a bit of a focus on the surface to appease Photographers a little, there is a red eye removal option tool, and Auto layer blend/align which basically stiches your panoramic photos together and such, works pretty good, just like other programs out there. Most of them are decent but now it's in PS as an option. Cools i guess, I never used it before.

There is something called Vanishing Point as well which will be handy or confusing, it brings up that screen like liquify/extract/filter menu, and you can make a plane on your image by connecting points and then skew that plane, then when you paint in that plane your brush strokes will be in perspective. I'm sure it will have other uses too, so a good thing there. If your a pro painter, it might be odd because you're already used to painting in perspective but this can speed things up once your used to it, and reduce mistakes and disproportion.

I think there is a new version of Bridge with the beta as well, this is a big thing because the current bridge can cause problems and is a memory HOG. Do not keep this thing open if you can avoid it.

The concept of the bridge app has been around and is really useful, but IMO this kinda of viewing and meta tagging, should be built into the OS. You will see this type of thing happening with the new Vista(boo) and Lepoard/Illuminous(yay!) anyways. But Adobe will tack there version on, supposedly this new one is better. Someone else more familiar with it should review it and gives us the skinny. I just use it for viewing.

Oh and someone asked about the new splash panel. Haha, it's a very simple blue gradient rounded panel that says 'Ps3 Beta working version'. I would say it's definately placeholder, so we'll have to wait for how they will brand the next CS3 visually.

Remeber the old 'eye in the lens' one from 5.5 -6.0, haha good times.

I think if you put pscs3 in a new box, it's gonna rock, all the new speed ups really help for production work and the new smart filters is long overdue, no more have to make duplicate layers of original artwork in case you don't like your changes.

I'm just waiting for it to drop for my macbook pro. Please please be uber fast, make me the coolest kid in town.

Ok i got to get back to the grind, it's sunday and i'm still at work, overtime blows when your on salary, gotta get this game out the door.

me.




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Wysiwyg | 12/18/2006 @074 | Editedit post
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 Arden88 wrote on 12/18 @052

There is something called Vanishing Point as well which will be handy or confusing, it brings up that screen like liquify/extract/filter menu, and you can make a plane on your image by connecting points and then skew that plane, then when you paint in that plane your brush strokes will be in perspective. I'm sure it will have other uses too, so a good thing there. If your a pro painter, it might be odd because you're already used to painting in perspective but this can speed things up once your used to it, and reduce mistakes and disproportion.


This was introduced in CS2 ;) I didn't notice anything in the release notes about an upgrade or tweak to it...

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Manifestant | 12/18/2006 @085 | Editedit post
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GFXartist sponsor Wysiwyg wrote on 12/18 @074
[...]

This was introduced in CS2 ;) I didn't notice anything in the release notes about an upgrade or tweak to it...

If I am not mistaken, they now call it Vanishing Point 2.0. There are tweaks made to it. You may be able to find that info in the release notes that I gave in the News Headline I submitted:
Adobe Photoshop CS3 Public Beta Goes Live!

The feature list says:
quote:

Vanishing Point with multiple, adjustable angle perspective planes
One of the most powerful new features of Photoshop CS2 is now even more flexible. Vanishing Point adjusts brush strokes, healing and cloning as you paint over its perspective planes. In Photoshop CS3, you are no longer restricted to adding planes at 90-degree angles. You can now quickly and easily create multiple planes in any image, connected at any angle. In addition, artwork (for example, a product label pasted from the clipboard) can be wrapped around multiple planes simultaneously. To adjust angles of planes, use the Alt/Option key when dragging on a side point of a plane, or enter a specific angle in the Angle field in the dialog.
I dig VP. Helps me alot. It's what I used for the CD Cover Design Contest to do the "real world" layout and for a restaurant design for a client last year.

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kemp | 12/19/2006 @242 | Editedit post
http://www.photoshopuser.com/cs3/index.html

Check out the videos there... it gives a good idea about the new features and how they work... :)

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Buckweed | 12/19/2006 @787 | Editedit post
cant wait

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Darknekomata | 04/11/2007 @161 | Editedit post
i had to uninstall cs3 beta because it was messing up the tablet, the pressure stopped working even if i tried going into photoshop cs2 or cs1, i kept getting a little yellow triangle with an exclamation point in it next to Pressure control option. it was a lot faster than cs2 but i like the cs2 workspace better.

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zymyint | 06/22/2007 @289 | Editedit post
i buy it now
but not installed in my computer yet:)
that will be cool

but is that slower than CS 2?
CS 2 is very slow in my computer!

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IronGolem | 07/16/2007 @419 | Editedit post
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 zymyint wrote on 06/22 @289
but is that slower than CS 2?
CS 2 is very slow in my computer!

Image processing takes up a lot of processing power, what computer are you using, Zymyint ? Is it optimized for image processing? You can find a lot of useful articles on computer tweaks on infohost.nmt.edu .
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Diane | 07/16/2007 @687 | Editedit post
Wow cool, that's very interesting! I was just searching for a review in order to know if it was worth buying it or not, but it seems that there are some great new features!

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Slapo | 07/16/2007 @730 | Editedit post
You can always download the trial version :)

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Diane | 07/16/2007 @748 | Editedit post
You're right ;)

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