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Almost-Human | 02/07/2008 @526 | Edit edit post
after the outstanding success of this thread
CS2 six hours later :)
I have decided to ask some different questions. :)

Question 1 :)
If you are shooting in RAW format, what program do you use initially ?
Is it easy to master ? is it a Well laid out program ? Would you recomment it ?

Question 2 :)
Do you have an opinion on converting RAW files to DNG by adobe ?
The reason I ask this is, I am now starting to worry that my files from the Sigma D10, they might in the future prove troublesome to open.. So I am considering converting them all to DNG. What do you think ?

Question 3 :)
Just to make sure you are reading, the final question is.. what is the capital of Uruguay ? This is a special bonus round question with double points. answer all 3 questions and win a week long holiday in your own home...

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MsMichelleLynn | 02/07/2008 @544 | Editedit post
Hi Brian. I am saving my photos in RAW format and then editing further in Tiff in Photoshop CS. I'm new to this so I am not able to advise you.

Michelle

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moserArtist | 02/07/2008 @664 | Editedit post
Hi Monkey boy! lol

If you are being a serious photographer there is only one thing to do and that is to shoot in RAW. DEFINITELY! :)

I would say it can't ever get wrong unless you have no idea of making a composition or if you manage to mess up with the focus. Rest can be handled and tweaked in the excellent post editing process.

I use CS3 and its pre processing for RAW pictures.

Tweaks include:
White balance, exposure, shadows/highlights, temperature, contrast, and saturation (for me at least)...

Rest is done in regular PS! ;)

I have no personal answer to your format saving question.
I add a nice thread on your DNG vs RAW question:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1004&message=18067888&changemode=1

and..

Montevideo is the capital of Uruguay.

Question to you... Have you not used RAW yourself in the past. If not I am really surprised... ;)
[Message edited on 02/07 @669]

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Slapo | 02/07/2008 @788 | Editedit post
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GFXartist sponsor Almost-Human wrote on 02/07 @526
Question 1 :)
If you are shooting in RAW format, what program do you use initially ?
Is it easy to master ? is it a Well laid out program ? Would you recomment it ?

Irfan view for quickly sorting out the junk. I know you don't have any, but it's the fastest one for previews of raw files I've stumbled upon so far.
Then it's RawTherapee for high quality preview and basic editing. Selected exported pngs or tiffs get further processed in the GIMP.

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GFXartist sponsor Almost-Human wrote on 02/07 @526
Question 2 :)
Do you have an opinion on converting RAW files to DNG by adobe ?
The reason I ask this is, I am now starting to worry that my files from the Sigma D10, they might in the future prove troublesome to open.. So I am considering converting them all to DNG. What do you think ?

Don't convert them to DNG unless you have to. Native raw files often contain extra camera data which could be useful at times.

quote:

GFXartist sponsor Almost-Human wrote on 02/07 @526
Question 3 :)
Just to make sure you are reading, the final question is.. what is the capital of Uruguay ? This is a special bonus round question with double points. answer all 3 questions and win a week long holiday in your own home...

Answered above correctly.

You could have written an offline message on Yahoo, you know ;)
[Message edited on 02/07 @790]

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Almost-Human | 02/08/2008 @466 | Editedit post
Michelle, Moser and Peter, thank you...

Michelle, Thanks Hun... :)

Moser, I have never shot anything in any format other than RAW :) you nutter ;)

I had no problems with the Sigma, as photoshop CS2 handled it perfectly.
With the 2 new Nikon Cameras I am having difficulties..

Peter, you are right, I should have taken it to Yahoo.. :)

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Slapo | 02/08/2008 @739 | Editedit post
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GFXartist sponsor Almost-Human wrote on 02/08 @466Peter, you are right, I should have taken it to Yahoo.. :)
You can still log in ;)

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MsMichelleLynn | 02/12/2008 @503 | Editedit post
Different cameras have their own raw file suffixes. In my case it is cr2. Photoshop CS will not open that format. You may want to check for updates for your CS2 program Brian. After updating, you may be able to open your camera's raw photos directly in PS.

I have Lightroom set to import photos that I've downloaded from my CF card. I'll work on each raw photo individually in Lightroom and upon completion, export the original raw image along with it's extra data from adjustments that I've made to its appropriate folder and also export a copy as a tiff to Photoshop CS for further editing. Each raw photo becomes three files ... one, the original raw photo, two, the embedded adjustments file, and three, the tiff file to be opened in Photoshop CS.

If I re-open the raw file in Lightroom, the adjustments are saved but the photo can with one click of the mouse be reset to the original minus the adjustments. Those adjustments might include temperature/tint, levels, brightness/contrast, saturation, fill light, luminescence, sharpening, noise reduction, and cropping.

After completing the Lightroom adjustments I export a tiff copy to Photoshop CS for final adjustments and conversion to jpg. Those final adjustments include reverting from 16 to 8 bit, resizing, Neat Image application, adding a frame, and perhaps making a few minor adjustments to brightness/contrast, saturation, cloning tool. and finally ... converting to jpg. and saving to the desired folder.

I delete the temporary Tiff file and I'm left with two photos ... the original raw image along with its embedded alterations and the jpg. If I decide to re-work the photo at a later time, I simply re-open the raw image.

I don't know if I'm using the most efficient method or if I'm erring but it's working for me.

Of course you could simply purchase Photoshop CS 3 and you'd then be able to edit your raw images from that one program. $800.00 later you'd be a happy but financially challenged photographer.

Perhaps some of the RAW photographers here could give some input as to their preferred workflow.

Michelle
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