NIKa  04/21/07 @557

THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE!!! Colors, lighting, details, everything is wonderful! Excellent Job! Nikola.

beatrizmatar  04/21/07 @577

Wonderful work¡¡¡¡¡¡I love it¡¡¡¡¡¡¡+10

Andy--Jones  04/21/07 @581

Like I have said before, that latex is the best I have ever seen! Awsome work Vincentdudemaman! And a WIP with effin pencil work in it! Its good to see someone this good who actually doesn't paint over effin photos and then denies it with made up WIP's! Nice one.

monjo  04/21/07 @593

Just awesome Vincent. I especially like the color choices. The image really pops out at you. Excellent work. John

sdavis75  04/21/07 @598

My new favorite from you, Vincent! Hot hot hot!!! +10 and to favs!

BaronImpossible  04/21/07 @601

Great work, love that latex! +9/10

Wallace  04/21/07 @601

Nikola, Bea John, Steven, Simon: thanks! Andy: I always sketch up something first with a pencil, sketching with a tablet is just agony. Or is it because we're oldschool? Thanks dude!

ToKra  04/21/07 @606

Raahh, uber photorealistic! +hothothothothot lol Well done man!

BillCorbett  04/21/07 @614

Wow! (jaw drop) +++

ARZILLIER66  04/21/07 @630

Wooow! vincent, this is incredible. ++++++10

Ringgold  04/21/07 @641

Cool work! Everything is fine but I don't like the boobs.

Valera  04/21/07 @651

!!!!DAMN!!! Top marks!

gurcan  04/21/07 @655

NothinG to crit Amazing as usual...! +7/7

moserArtist  04/21/07 @674

Wow that is a foxy lady! You are damn good! +10

deandude  04/21/07 @677

pencil is for wimps... the subject matter isn't my cup of tea, but you are a master digital painter man...fantastic work!

Wallace  04/21/07 @681

Todor, Bill, Pedro, Ringgold, Valera, Gurcan, Patrick: thank you Dean: that's so true, also, also pencil is for an older generation unwillingly to comply to future (digital) progress Thanks Deandude!

mysticcat  04/21/07 @692

Really adore the way you have sucessfully create the plastic feeling of her clothes, though I expect to see more folds on the speculated areas. +9/9

dakoo  04/21/07 @700

good work Vincent !! Very well done !! Top Marks !!

Daykan  04/21/07 @750

VINCEDUDE! Damn!! you must present me to this girl!!! Give me your phone number!

Madanapale  04/21/07 @773

Wow!!!....beautiful lady!!!. Excellent colors....great portrait!!.....Well done Vincent! Carlos

razpna  04/21/07 @786

i like how you made her dreses,they are so realistic

Gavade  04/21/07 @793

Awesome colours used! Nice one . . . .

tomato04  04/21/07 @825

=O dont know what to say great work

Wallace  04/21/07 @830

This painting is moved by the moderators to the 'Photomanip section'. I want to make clear to all of you that this is 100% PAINTED. Thanks

kittyKat  04/21/07 @834

quote:  Wallace This painting is moved by the moderators to the 'Photomanip section'. I want to make clear to all of you that this is 100% PAINTED. Thanks Yep its a painting, I never said it wasn't but its a recreation of the photo reference. Side By Side And Overlay Please see link---> Artwork Submission Guidelines Revised scroll down to painting section *edit* NOTE no flamming on wallace's post. You have something to say to me shoot me a PM.

BaronImpossible  04/21/07 @866

Oooooh, not sure about that decision. I'd be more than happy to see this back in the Painting section. If we start transfering closely ref'ed work to Photo Manip then half the Painting gallery will end up here. And it is 100% painted, so no manip involved... Come on, Ms Kat, put it back

ToKra  04/21/07 @868

"5.3 Exact recreations of other people's photos / images Detail: Even if every brush stroke is yours, an artwork consists of more than just paint. A near exact version of another person’s image is also a [[[[[recreation/copy]]]]]. These "recreations" are rejected unless the recreation is sufficiently different from the original. Links to the original material will have to be provided and permission must be granted by the original artist. You are allowed to post recreations in the forum, including links to the original material if you want others judge / recognize your technical skill." Either put it under a 'Recreation' Category or put it back to Digital Painting - as leaving it in the Photomanip Category is highly misleading, false and immoral. let alone insulting to the artist.

jfrancis  04/21/07 @871

nice. I always liked her

acida  04/21/07 @916

to me this seems like 3d modelling doesn't look like a painting mwehehe, so tell us the truth, was that 3d modelled or... just kidding. and erm... -.- i can't consider this a photo manipulation, i would consider more 3d modelling cuz it looks really like 3d. anyhow, you did an amazing job that's for certain

ToKra  04/21/07 @929

*chuckles*

Wallace  04/21/07 @956

Okay time to respond. First of all I would like to say thanks to all who commented this piece. Of course, I'm disappointed with Pam's (Kittykat) decision, BUT she was acting according to GFX rules. This IS a painting and putting it under the photomanip section is indeed misleading, but rules are rules as such. Please comment this piece (if you were planning to) as what it is: a painted image, and anything you have to say about the mod's decision, you can PM Pam as she has stated herself. Thanks people!

Azurelle  04/22/07 @047

You should add some photoparts to this, Vincent, to make it a real Photomanip

slickgreekgeo  04/22/07 @049

I think it's quite disgusting that you were forced to changed the category. I could tell the difference between a paintover, a photomanipulation, and something that was referenced (such as the case with this). +10

deandude  04/22/07 @052

i was being sarcastic, wallacedude....you probably got that, but just in case

Wallace  04/22/07 @055

Azu: gooed idea! George: thanks for your back up Dean: you were??? thanks for stopping by a second time

sdavis75  04/22/07 @063

Yep, Photomanipulation is ABSOLUTELY THE WRONG CATEGORY! "My Profile Only" would be more appropriate, and that's where I recommend you put it, Vincent, if I will not be allowed under "Painting."

hysp  04/22/07 @094

Gorgeous work!!! I give you my max coz it is an amazing one and because I think it is unfair to be in photomanip section (the same thing happened to me once...). Congrats!!

Inabottle  04/22/07 @095

amazing what was the size of your canvas... this is beautifully realistic.

kayness  04/22/07 @110

hmmm, it looks like a painting from the start.....i dont' know why the mods moved it to photomanip, but anyway it's really impressive! the dress especially. looks very realistic! my goodness, i just noticed: her right eye is a bit bigger than her left..

Wallace  04/22/07 @159

Steven: thanks for you advice, I certainly will think about that option Alvaro, Rian: thanks! Kay: you're right! I guessed i suffered from tunnelvision, will correct it tomorrow as I'm sleepy thanks!

jha  04/22/07 @311

great painting.

fumera  04/22/07 @440

great recreation +9/9

Irina  04/22/07 @499

5/5 very good, looks like photo =) jajajaja then the drawing recreations of celebrities should be moved to photomanip too! lol

ThruMyEyez  04/22/07 @510

A great painting Vincent!! Love the latex!

killadore  04/22/07 @583

technically it's just mindblowing. only thing i found a liiiittle bit strange was the chain on her hat that looks more like plastic than metal, hehe, i don't know if that was intended though. you did a very good job portraying her. 9

amoeba  04/22/07 @616

Well done. It shows you are master of your technique! (And lucky you have such a nice life model ) My only crit would be the skin feels a bit plastic, but it could be the effect that you were aimming for.... About the categorie issue. I honestly don't see any problem with this one being in the painting section. Don't think there is any reason to call a faithful recreation "photomanip" just because it's too well done that it almost looks like a photo.

fumera  04/22/07 @637

Kind of reminds me on:

cupcake  04/22/07 @640

Excellent Vincent. I agree, maybe this rule should be changed? Vincent , put it in your profile, a much better place. Top Mark

Wallace  04/22/07 @642

Fumera: lol looks cool don't know excactly what you're trying to tell with that picture...but thanks!

fumera  04/22/07 @673

I thought first you may had the idea with the flying skull on on her cap from this movie. I also agree with  cupcake and the others that this one here belongs in the paint category. There is too much work behind it to simply shovel it in the manip. section. love the details you addet to the composition. Fingernails, skull, collar, hip and right eye making a perfect finish. again great job!

alebrije  04/22/07 @696

Gorgeous... She’s so hot! Extraordinary painting! +10

cnell  04/22/07 @734

love the slick feel to this! very cool painting. Vincent, did you paint over a photograph? is that why it was moved? claudia

Wallace  04/22/07 @737

Hi Claudia, thanks for your comment Nope..it's moved because the final painted image has a more than 50% resemblence with the source material...or something like that

Wallace  04/22/07 @755

Baka: you're the fetish expert!

Simba  04/22/07 @792

master skill

Andy--Jones  04/22/07 @831

Why the feck was it moved??? Its not a photomanip unlike countless other elite works on here that ARE but are just totally ignored because of the stature of the artists! Best place for this is sadly DA Vincent! Never thought Id see the day when I would say that! Leave it where it is the rules on this site need changing as do a lot of things

deandude  04/22/07 @854

WHY IS THIS STILL IN THE PHOTOMANIP SECTION?????????????

Thorsten  04/22/07 @863

I don't know why all people here are hacking on KittyKat's decision. If she had followed the Artwork Submission Guidelines here, she would have to depublish and give an official warning for this posting. Instead she built Wallace golden bridges to keep this picture in the gallery - exactly what most people here wanted.

Azurelle  04/22/07 @892

Well at least this Photomanip thing is the best publissity ever seen on this site

CodeHead  04/22/07 @913

The ultimate decision about paint overs going into the photo manipulation category was  Martin's. My profile only would seem like a better place for such items as they are essentially an exercise in reproduction. Nothing truly wrong with it as long as permission and such has been obtained (as would be the stated case here), but nothing truly artistic about it either.

Wallace  04/22/07 @918

yeah but this is not a paintover

CodeHead  04/22/07 @927

Well let others make the call then: Side By Side And Overlay Perhaps your screen name should be Xerox if you're truly that spot on. *Edit: Updated screen shot to include sketch.

Wallace  04/22/07 @931

I REALLY painted from scratch, the reason why its spot on is that i tend to zoom in much; haven't you checked out my WIP? Do I have to take a lie-detector test or something? I dunno...

BaronImpossible  04/22/07 @938

Many people appear confused about this and I'm not sure why. Figure reference is something used by 99 out of 100 pro artists as a perfectly valid and accepted part of the artistic process. It requires skill and artistic talent to do well. A paintover, on the other hand, is something that people who can't paint do to pretend they can. It requires neither skill nor talent. Painting = good Paintover = bad As explained, this is a painting, not a paintover. It's also worth saying that I for one would like to see ~ Paintings in the Painting section, Photo Manips in the Photo Manip section, and Paintovers in the Recycle Bin (sorry for discussing this in your post, Wallace, but I thought I'd join in )

Wallace  04/22/07 @943

Thanks Simon for jumping in. Really appreciated! It really bugs me that the discussion now is shifting to whether or not it's a paintover??!! Its painted! *sigh*

Azurelle  04/22/07 @943

Baron, very well written. Now the overlay shows that both pictures do not match up exactly - an Vincent has done some errors on face and coloring wich wouldn't be there if he had just overpainted. Besides - I know this guy in person, and he is a freaking good drawer! Please check out the pencil drawing he worked from. I don't find it fair to try to expose him as any kind of cheater or such, that's just unfair.

Wallace  04/22/07 @955

Good point Azu: please people, stick the comments to the artwork itself, I will do too... Thanks!

Excorbac  04/23/07 @963

Rules, rules, rules . What count is that this is a stunning piece of art, nothing more and nothing less. But there's a strange feeling for me as I watch this one : it seems like a sort of "painting" filter was applied on a photo in PS. Excuse me to be a little rude but I think it's too good to be honest... (However top marks )

Xazax  04/23/07 @972

WOW it is amazing very nice details.Great colors.Good job

Maddagone  04/23/07 @083

good work +10/10 what ever it is

searcher  04/23/07 @089

The folds are a tiny bit sharper and tigher than the photo Nice work btw.

illuminnatti  04/23/07 @801

very realistic choths, ligthing, everything

JeffMD  04/23/07 @803

the latex is awesome! suberb, just like what you did with your previous work, kiss my boot. zippers path ( ridges, dont know how it is called ) are the best one for me!

rhalaquist  04/23/07 @832

Very Nice

Dutch-Memory  04/24/07 @940

Ik heb hier geen woorden voor...+10 Vincent

Sharkh20  04/26/07 @276

Looks like i missed the party Great job with this man, one of the best I have seen on GFX and it is now in my favorites. I appreciate the time you spent going over every single detail, something I will never have the patience to do as well as most of the art community. Thanks for creating such a great work. O ya, and I say technically, the background takes up more than 50% anyways and the background is completely different from the ref, therefore, painting

Daykan  04/27/07 @973

ViolentContact  04/29/07 @927

This is an amazing painting, the technique is brilliant. fabulous work Vincent +10 And yep, pretty obviously is not a photo but 100% painted people , come on, it doesn't match at all.

ViolentContact  04/29/07 @933

ups double post..

Skunk  05/01/07 @018

arrr nice work! lover her pose

fabioc  05/03/07 @774

Astonishing. Wish I could give you a 10

Diegoth  05/08/07 @101

Amazing! I love the colours!

seeThrou  05/12/07 @883

your very diverse artist whether you are painting death, sharks or a hot woman you make it look so easy...+10

NunoDias  05/13/07 @053

This work is unbelivable o_o i'm speachless with so many quality!!

L-aura  05/14/07 @801

Incredible talent!

zaclab  05/15/07 @512

Woooow! I mean wooooow Great work!

nanno  05/15/07 @802

are u kidding me?is that a drowing? wowwwwwwwww wowwwww,,,,r u drwoing 24 hours a day?because a talent like this must have great efford to be in such a high level.... realy realy awsome work,,u are so talented and so god gamn great digital artist,,,the leather texture is wow,,,,,no one can do leather like that,, top top top marks noha

ARTOONATOR  06/09/07 @779

I can imagine she's popular. She's got what it takes for that side of the bizz. Now all she needs is some decent photographers... First: Nice work. But....Why mimic those photo's? Why not blend in some imagination to really make these works your own?

TJVerhagen  07/24/07 @963

I agree with Artoonator. Still, this is very impressive. Amazing job!