somehow waxy and monochromatic, soldiers' proportions are also a bit off

WOW!

Its a good scene but the flags the robot holds seem a bit weak compared to the rest of the painting.

Very Well done, a good atmosphere, good details. I like this style.

WHOA! bu ne? perfect. supersin kardeees

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Crow, has it ever occured to you that I used Monochromatic colors intentionally? That almost "monochromatic" background contrasted with the bright red banners, flag and the whole colourscheme goes really well with the concept. And I am really tired of this "monochromatic" bullshit...What the hell is that anyway? Every time I submit a piece on GFX, some guy's come and says: "Oh, this is monochromatic"... Where did you learn this gig guys? From Arenhaus? Well, let me tell you something: he's not a painting god and THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH USING MONOCHROMATIC COLORS DAMMIT! How did you get this wrong idea? Dude, you cannot criticize it. It's a personal style, Not everbody's supposed to paint like Dali! many great illustrators using monochromatic colorscheme,(Frazetta, Giger, Brom) I don't understand that, I've never heard that using monochromatic tones is wrong! It's funny, that critique is very popular here! this is a gig on GFX Well, I am willing to change that nonsense...

Of course soldiers' proportions are a bit off man! Have you ever heard of intentionally twisted, caricaturated anatomy? Exaggeratated characterisations? Please take a look at the guy at the bottom right, look at his back of neck, Is there any way to think that this guy's supposed to be real? Is this work looks like realistic to you? Well, sorry... this is not a realistic piece, character anatomies, enviroment and other elements are intentionally twisted and stylized. And here's the news to you: I am not some 17th-century classical painter

guzel is adamim harbi çok hosuma gitti, takma sen kargayi o hep ötüp duruyo biliyosun, salla gözüm var böyle adamlar. Çok hosuma gitti valla bravo.

Good job buddy, very well done, i like so much. keep it up.

KeremBeyit,

As an artist you should learn to"handle" peoples criticisms better. Crow's comments were valid, he percieved it one way while another may percieve it another. If it bugs you so much as how people crit your art style or method. Maybe consider writing down how we should grasp the piece or the theme you intended on presenting here. Otherwise, it seems you took crows comments to heart.

...relax.


The theme and context is great. The colors are fine but the piece as a whole seems "off" You have things in the background almost as "sharp" as things in the foreground, which is throwing your perspective and distance off. Id say less with the "blotchy" patches and render it a bit more to fit some of the more rendered areas on your digital painting. Its looking good, just sit down with it a bit more i think.

You have a promising piece here.

I agree with Kerem on the monochromatic and anatomy shit. Paintings don´t have to have towsands of colours and fotorealistic rendered figures, lots of GREAT paintings don't have it !!! Strictly correct anatomy can be often killer of movement and athmosphere (I have nothing against photorealistic pictures )

I like this pic a lot also because it is MONOCHROMATIC

Anathomy really doesnt have to be allways right, I couldnt agree more... but, there should be sights of knowing anathomy well first... sorry, but those guys r really a bit out. Although the coloring part isnt so good at this piece. 2 blurry on parts, 2 less sharp lines to define shapes, some parts looks dirty... Not one of the best from u.

I like the atmosphere on this one, has a wolfenstein feel to it, the details are cool as is the style. I love the guy with the camera in the backround, thats cool. Overall a nice picture +8

Freekin nazis!
Cool Pic.very cold feel! I think you achieved what it was you were trying to portray.
But what does the robot represent? the régime? or is it there cause its cool looking.
Very neat +7/7

hauptsportplatze :-0
hello germany : )

I think everything about this picture is excellent. And I do think you are right about that anatomy and monochromotic stuff. This rock.

absolutely i gree too, super...

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...relax.

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Oguzman, I am so relax that you couldn't believe it man. My English is sux, maybe I couldn't find the right words You think I overreacted, but I didn't And I didn't just answer to him, I reacted to a wrong act that's all, I just couldn't bear this "monochromatic crtique bullshit", I said that then, and I am saying now, this is: bullshit. These kids learn from this bullshit from somebody, and they just wanna use it in a sentence But they cannot do that in my gallery. Well I can't allow that, sorry. Let me put it this way: This piece took my 13 labour hours, and some people who doesn't have any work in his gal came and throw mud at it in 1 minute That's unacceptable, I can take critiques, but I can't take mud. (check out my other works and other comments, I've always been polite to who has been polite to me.). I can easily become low-spirited becuse of this kind of comments and sometimes I think about cancel my account and leaving the GFX That comment was rude and uncalled for, and far from valid and it wasn't based on a correct evaluation. Yeah, that's the problem: monochromatic colorscheme is not an error, there's nothing wrong with it. (He pointed out like it was a mistake and I really do wanna know how the hell is this unfounded idea come into existence? ) And my characterization is my own choice. You cannot criticize a stylized characaters on a realistic proportions basis. That's simple. So I have all the rights in the world to overreacting but I didn't, I just react and try to explain which can be criticize and which can be not. And sorry but I don't have to writing down how you should grasp the piece or the theme I intended... that's simply not my call, if he doesn't know how to grasp a fantasy piece and looking for errors that doesn't concern a fantasy piece, this is his problem not mine.
And I'm rely on this rule:

1. Don't be an asshole. This is a rule, not a guideline. We really mean this, breaking this rule will get your account suspended. If you can't say anything nice or constructive, don't say anything at all. We're here to share visual creations, get some feedback and learn. It doesn't mean you may not be critical, afterall that's what feedback is for.

"If you can't say anything nice or constructive, don't say anything at all." This is GFX policy, well gfx team doesn't seem to exercise this policy, but that's not the issue.You know what? I can allow a person to be an asshole if he's right, careful: if he's right on his critique basis! But you cannot be an asshole and being wrong at the same time

Thanks for the constructive critiques btw, but If you look at the background mountains and the watch tower, you can see that they're on a different sharpness level, but you're right about perspective, I'm kind of new at this tablet painting You see, I can take critiques, but mud? never...

Thanks for the polite comments people

That was well put Kerem. I enjoy this piece vrey much.

I rather like this. And the guy on the very bottom left looks much like Hilter to me...haha. Maybe not, perhaps he's 'just another Nazi'. Cool idea...

Thank you all for your sweet comments Appreciated.

Hmm, personally I enjoy your work and think you are very talented. However i have to fully back Oguzman on this. Its true art can be whatever you want, but you post it on here for the masses so either clarify your intentions or bear the crit. Just trying to say have some more class in your response to it. Gfxartist is an awesome place, lets not ruin it ya?

Anyways, awesome piece once again. There is something a bit "off" but i don't know what it is. I like the style though and the premise is interesting. Wonder who would have won if that thing existed.....

That is one interesting concept, Personally, a twelve foot robot would scare the livin daylights outa me. The scale of that creation is choice!. Very effective play on scale and i like the colour palette too!.

Marley

LE-ove, why don't you understand, he says you can crit whatever you want, but you can't crit his personal choices, his color palette is his business, he's angry becuse, he believes that critique based on a wrong evaluation... Monochromatic is wrong? says who? Based on what? That's what bugs him. He is my brother, and believe me he can take crit, I know Lol, I always mock him in home.

Anyway, great as always. +8

Some people are way to picky. I think this is a great one. +7

Very Nice, reminds me of something from return to castle wolfenstein.
The contrast of the reds, on the dull background works very well.
Je suis Impressed

çok iyi is vallahi ne diim ellerine saglik.

yes very good work.

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Actually I love the Monochromatic effect ... It actually Give me the feelin that this picture is quiet old and hey its 1940s ... I will + 8

Hey - this is brilliant mate. I too lov the monochromatic effect, could instantly see why you done it. Looks cold, eerie and dead. As it should with a souless robot and company. White the red nazi symbols work great, maybe they could be toned down just a tad, and the whites are too white. And maybe could put a little more shine on the robot. Hey its a great composistion and the figures look very nice. Some nice touches in there, like the camera man, evil doctor etc.

People must look at the time factor also, for 13 hours its awesome, and i know with a little more time you'd perfect this image. But for me its good enough to be finished. Very well done. ok, now im off to look at the rest of your gallery

I am proud with you. Great work. (aglamak istiyorum). Congratulations to you.

The characters look very anime-esque..
Interesting concept

this is a very imaginative scene, im just glade we could stop them before they got this technogically advanced.

I've been drawing since i was 4 yrs old and most of my early life was pencil only.Eventually i tried adding some color a little . this reminds me of my early years in pencil. I will be 52 end of august and i just recently got my new computer and wacon 9x12. Haven't had time to do much more than touch the pen to the tablet. I like this piece and think it works well. it does remind me of a political cartoon, which i like. It does obviously have the caricature effect to the figures. I haven't seen your other works, but will check them out. I dont think this would work nearly as well in color as the way you did it. I like it and i think i see the concept you had when you created this. The German/Nazi regime did develop a considerable array of advanced technology. Pretty formidable and some good things too. Autobahn/freeway's, volkswagon, etc. But they were monsters. Posting pics here allows for criticism, turn any and all of it into constructive critiscim. Dont let things get to you. Keep peace in your heart, mind and soul. This will help you create art. Living and thinking positive will keep negativity out. If you allow negativity inside, it will choke your creativity and your art. Look within yourself and see the gift of creativity you have, its a positive thing.An open mind will advance a closed mind wont. open mind is positive and willing to learn, a closed mind is negative, unable to advance.I grasped the idea behind your drawing, no caption needed. The Nazi's were cold blooded killers, hence the almost colorless drawing. the stark red reminds us of all the blood spilled. well done. It works and i get it. post more pics, man!

I confirm that there's nothing wrong with using monochromatic colors, as long as it does not impede your color scheme and expression. If someone thinks I have been dispensing critiques to all monochromatic-scheme work here without discrimination, I beg to reconsider.

This picture borders on not having enough color variation, but I am not going to gripe since it's obvious that the color is not supposed to be "painterly". The scheme here is based on just two distinct colors, the flag and everything else - the artist is fully entitled to do it, I believe. I won't claim it's perfect; I believe the artist could have used more variance within the "teal" zone, still keeping the two-color scheme distinct but achieving a better feel of atmosphere. But am I going to shred it in pieces for not being perfect? - no and no!

Crow - please look into how limited color schemes can be used to your advantage; pure realism is not the only artistic approach.

KeremBeyit - relax, I don't really enjoy to catch someone else's flak just because I insist that artists must know how to use color properly.

You can cheat all you want, as long as you know how to work without cheating. Cheers.

P.S. Nonetheless, less monochromatic color - or at least more evident contrast - would be an improvement. You can do it while still maintaining the intended color effect. As it is, you have too many things "disappearing" into the background.

I suggest making the following things distinct: the sky and the trees (if these are tress, they're very sketchy-smudgy) can be made lighter and more transparent; the pavement a little less saturated; the black uniforms darker and less saturated and the green ones having a more olive tint; the white robe of the "mad scientist" accept the sky light; and enhance the metallic sheen on the robot.

You can still put a lot of subtle but clear color contrast into a "monochromatic" work. You just need to approach everything with the same attitude to color; don't allow thinking like "this is so close in color, I can just smudge black over it". A painter always thinks of color interaction even if he has one color to work with.

P.P.S. Frazetta has never used exclusively monochromatic color schemes. The evidence shows his love for bold color schemes and reliance on uniting hues, but his color is as far from monochromatic as it could be.

Thanks for this great comments.

Carver, Thank you very much for sharing your thought. You speak for my heart too man

Arenhaus, I don't believe you dispensing critiques to all monochromatic-scheme work here without discrimination But I do think some people trying to being an "arenhaus" and these "some people" doesn't achieve it. They're using your words in the wrong places. That's my problem. I don't react to bad critiques, but I react to wrong critiques. First of all, you can draw, and you can paint, therefore your comments are important and valid. You're right about background, believe me I try I am not a good colourist, I've been using colors for about 7-8 months now, give me some time to master it. I'm still trying to improve my tablet skills. Maybe, I can be a good painter 2-3 years later.

Well, I really tired of this topic and I don't want to discuss it anymore.

As for the Frazetta... If you believe this (above) work is monochromatic, those (below) works are monochromatic as well. And the first one is a typical sepia artwork and this color-scheme resemble my work "sheikh". And you said "sheikh" was monochromatic

http://www.craice.com.br/Frazetta/Frazetta_Conan_the_Usurper.jpg
http://membres.lycos.fr/malainbertrand/DESSINS/FRAZETTA/page_01.htm
http://planetefutur.free.fr/frazetta/fra70.jpg
http://drizzt.kilobug.org/pub/pics/fantasy/frazetta/ffcolr54.jpg

I have been watching you since Divxtr times. I like this drawing. Keep drawing and painting. Every great artist were criticised sometimes.

Thank you servantes

I totally love it!!! I somehow have a symphaty for Germans in WWII so this Nazi prototype made me jump from my chair

I love your art man, keep drawing!!! ))

i agree with KeremBeyit, monocromatics it´s an option for use in ilustrations and art in general and a not easy one.
btw from this work i like the most the complementary use of greens and reds (maby some bluegreen too) it´s very well balanced!
about stylistic figures think the same, sometimes people forghet what an ilustration is and all posibilitis of this caind of expresion.

any way i like this work!
keep them coming. and it´s good have this caind of disscusion for a change.

ps: sorry about my bad english!

Personally I like monochromatic works very much...like this one! It's a very original drawing!

cok saglam bi is,ellerine saglik.
kendi tarzin ile farkediliyorsun artik.helal olsun.

oh I do like this!

I love the long legs of your figures and the quirk factor- my only critique is it doesn't scream "1930s/40s" to me- I image the robot with more of a art deco flavour- but that's just being fussy.

I love this scene. It's very comicalwith everyone googling at the "Uebersoldat" (get that idea from Return to Castle Wolfenstein"? +7

Second thing I noticed when I first saw this was the stylistic drawing- and I like it! ^_^ (First thing I thought of was "Terminator!" but that's misguided and completely irrelevent. Lol) I love the way their legs taper down to the ankles, and their faces are awesome too. It does remind me of a political cartoon (a very well executed one), and that can only be good good good.

I'm not good with perspective and colour in relation to that, so I don't see any problems with that, personally. I really like the amount of detail you've put into the background. The only thing that bothers me with this piece is the dude standing next to the robot on the left. He's standing on a sloped bit, and it's making one leg look longer than the other. And normally people move so they are standing on relatively flat ground, and do so subconciously. This is also perhaps why him standing there rings a little 'off' to me.

Two thumbs up for another wonderful picture Kerem!

+8

omg its monochromatic!!!help i am melting ! hahaha
i think it looks good ..liked the style in it..those colors look snice and gives the mood of war...and such scene would look kinda bad with full of colors.....one thing bugs me is composition..three figures at the front of frame looks too straight..u could give them more depth ..or one or two larger and more dtailed figure in front..

ingilizce ile anlatmak zor oluyo ama öndeki 3 figürün tek sıra halinde dizilmesi olmamış demek istiyorum sadece biraz daha büyük ve detaylı olabilirlerdi..orda sanki croplanıo atılmış gibi duruyorlar frameden...

hmmm... i like many of your other artworks but i think this one ist just ugly i know you are a skilled artist but this only leaves one impression to me:

"man that does not work"


the idea is great. the colours may be ok, but ... you messed it up. i don't know what to say ...

*not so much points give*

WOW! This is good!

+10!! my max

I realy like this piece, greate style, also love the colors.

Amazing. Really, anything with a swatztica in it I'd generally not like all that much ^^ But this is brilliant. +8/8

My opinion is...well I just like it.

It gives me an idea and inspiration to write something based on this.

What if Germany had won WW2?

That type of shit...once again, good job!

i think i ran across this on epilogue but never commented there. i love the unifying monochromatic element and dig your stylized forms and use of perspective. very nice storytelling work.

to all of you talking about monochromatic paintings.

"Monochromatic colors are all the hues (tints and shades) of a single color. As a result, the energy is more subtle and peaceful due to a lack of color contrast. Monochromatic colors offer very little contrast and may be considered boring unless there is diversity within the design. "

http://iit.bloomu.edu/vthc/Design/monochromatic.htm

This picture is not monchromatic as a whole according to that definition

I think you could improve, if you want to by learning more anatomy and going for realistic colours instead of colouring big areas with just one colour/hue. The colours are not realistic to me but that does not mean you have to make them more saturated

I still think it is a good painting and you are elite member for a reason



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great :°D

its good work man. don't let the harder critics get you down. your art, is just that...."yours" they can't take that from you

tesh kir ebidim

9/10

A little modern robot style for the ww2...but nice idea!

From what I understand the Germans were highly advanced for the time, so I wouldnt be entirely.....anyway I love this one as all your works

GREAT work dude...and im totally agree with ur words...u hve put all the things in such a great way ! keep it up !

this work is wonderful . in subject and execute... welldone... +10

hayranlikla izliyorum.ankra'da workshop gibi bi olay yaparsaniz bu ise gonul vermis biz gencleri de sevindirirsiniz.

yeah! this is your style and it's wonderful ! love your work,man!
keep up the good work!!!

this is totally cool!
everything like color, anatomy, perspective just adds to the whole WWII atmosphere!
great job on it!