http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527 Copyright 2000-2008 GFXartist network / Brothersinart http://www.gfxartist.com http://images.gfxartist.com/gfx/GFXartist_64.png support@gfxartist.com en-us GFXartist Engine 1.0 60 Sun, 12 Oct 2008 08:17:00 EST http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980107889 umm I kind of agreed with socar myles... even after the response martin gave... in the aspect of several of these, such as photomanipulation. if its done entirely with others' photos its not allowed... unless its done very well... which is still saying that you'll look the other way... kind of thing... idk... seems like a lot of these, if put strictly and not using the look the other way idea would probably clear out several full galleries of work... some of mine would probably go too... Mark slaphapy5 http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980091182 Discipline makes artists in everything... I think it's a good idea to improve stuff here... but as said... it's must allow young artist with less skills to improve them... and i speak as one of them... i agree with the parts that the guidelines that aplly to my so called art... headhake http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980090736 *feels his arms and legs to make sure he still exists* ThruMyEyez http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980090305 Thank you   coladelight I apreciate that. Things will really start to tighten up enforcement wise when the new mods arrive, as far as removing elites, it wouldn't happen unless the whole system was revised and the elites no longer exsisted. Juro http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980090165 i appreciate that you try to improve quality standards here, but if you REALLY want to apply them you gotta remove 80% of the stuff here! a lot of elites just got there for their pencil skills, for example, drawing portraits or their animals etc. 1 to 1. tough tough tough. i am looking forward to it. Tavan http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980090138 +10 for the mods! LOL...kidding aside, happy to know that the guidelines are enforced and refreshed, so to speak... It is already stated here that warnings will be given to anybody who will violate said guidelines. In my experience, I wasn't aware that one of my photo entry fell to the snapshot category and was unpublished several times without me knowing. I thought it was my mistake and reposted it. Finally, the moderator messaged me, was told what happened and I willingly removed my entry. So with this in mind and this could be too much to ask but I just hope that any action done with an entry, the warning/info will always be sent to the member to avoid the same mistake I did which probably caused annoyance to the moderator as well. My respect to   Juro for setting me straight. Maridol coladelight http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980089895 @addicted2macs The guidelines are linked on the artwork submission page. Most don't realize this as they just check the box so they can publish...then complain later when their work is modded Wysiwyg http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980089613 "Stop censoring me" You have no idea how many times people have actually said stuff like that Juro http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980089415 Stop censoring me! I want to create poor art, and you're stopping me! Quang http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980089045 Looks good - for the most part it's clear and concise Byonder http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980089041 sounds fair! (as always) and yet i'm still too intimidated to start posting my own artwork. lol. LadyHazy http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980088982 This is obviously the result of a lot of thought and effort. Good stuff. re: Aeglos' comment -- I think we all tend to post in one or two categories, so reading through the rules for those individual categories is a pretty quick process. Could we possibly have a quick link for submission guidelines in each of the category 'home' pages? That way, if I want to post in the Drawing gallery, there's a quick link I can hit to check for guidelines..... Just a thought. addicted2macs http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980087972 ThruMyEyez: Exactly. Some will also notice that in essence they don't differ that much from the guidelines we have now. liiga: those types of art don't fit GFXartist really well so they will always be exceptions. lombergar: oops, yes Martin http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980087860 8.3 Typographic work with no apparent typographic skill or knowledge applied. Detail: Typography is a skill that goes being selecting a nice font. Works that include or rely on type need to be well executed. ... I'm pretty sure you meant BEYOND instead of being lombergar http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980087781 What about design of jewellery, fashion etc.? Does that still fit under the 'design' category - which the guidelines don't seem to suggest - or is it considered not suitable for GFXArtist at all? liiga http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980087779 Now all we need is to send out electric shocks to members who don't read them before posting Juro http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980087679 These are mainly common sense rules and should serve the purpose of keeping high quality art and original art as submissions. ThruMyEyez http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980087562 yeah, we need a condensed version, lots of visual examples etc. But for the sake of review, we threw the whole thing at you Martin http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980087555 looks good, but i think i'll have to read this tomorrow, when i'm awake (looong tekst, have you considerd that people might not read it because of the length? (the answer is propably yes..) I untherstand that there is a need to be clear but still...). Being to tired to read the tekst i have to note that the lay out is very clear, so: good job on that point Aeglos http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980087543 I was wondering about that too Martin http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980087540 Hey, how did my comment from over a month ago end up here? emarts http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980087538 Not really, but Socar does point out contradictions. I think we have to allow fan art, tributes and derivate works as long as the artist's input adds enough value to the original work/concept to take credit for it here. It's not our place to enforce copyrights in the name of others to that extend and we already have guidelines covering copies and recreations (which prevent the more obvious 'artwork theft'). Martin http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980087522 from wiki's definition of fanart, which I agree with.. "Fan art is usually a violation of the original creator's copyright, but since it is usually intended as a tribute, the copyright holders tend to tolerate (and sometimes even encourage) it as long as the fan does not try to make money off of it." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fanart so, as long as one gives proper credit and make that everyone understand it IS fanart/a tribute, is there really a problem? Repercutir http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980087507 Socar, good point. The next question is, do we have to rethink our guidelines when it comes to copyright (as works are not sold at GFXartist and we may be going to far by enforcing copyright in the name of others) or tighten the copyright rules and disallow fan art, tributes and derivative works? Tough one. Martin http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980087468 Sounds good to me. Linking to example's of "wrong" artwork might be an idea.. not to someone actual artwork, but simplified example's... maybe even show one attached to each category to make it easier to visualize what this "wrong" is... maybe that'd be too much work good to see some changes Repercutir http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980087467 It sounds good, with one exception: the fan art rule. In one breath, you're saying "Fan art is in fact a violation of rights that belong to the original artist and creators/license holders of the characters and such," and in the next, you say you're willing to look the other way if it's well done. To me, that says "We don't allow copyright infringement, unless it's really, really good copyright infringement." I don't see why exceptionally high quality fan art should be considered any more legitimate than terrible fan art. Socar-Myles http://www.gfxartist.com/general/general_news/114527#980042123 This is going to take me some time. Mu first impression though, it seems pretty straight-forward. I'm sure it can be nit-picked a bit, but I'm pretty happy with it. I'll give it another, more thorough look-see, and will post my thoughts. emarts