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   02/10/04 @764

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    Martin

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ALL MEMBERS: Announcement


Since not everyone reads posts of length, let me quickly sum up the content of this message. With the recent disqualified elite winner, paint-overs have yet again become a hot item. Do not, in any circumstances, start a witch hunt. Though you might feel it's easy to spot a work painted over a photo, you could very well be wrong. If you suspect that a member breaks the rules, notify the admins or file a report. Imagine if someone questioned your work and publically states he or she thinks your work is painted over a photo. Large groups of people are like lemmings and before you know it everyone considers you the photo-paintover king and all that just because of one stupid accusation. We rather use discretion and we want you to do that too.

The originality of the work submitted to GFXartist is important, but very hard to check. When it comes to using photo reference and photo's as base of your image, copyright comes looking around the corner. Wether you're drawing over or from a photo, be carefull not to replicate it. The original author still owns the rights over the image and by creating a near duplicate you're violating the authors copyright, even if it are all your brush strokes.

Since proving an artwork is painted over a photo or a replica of a photo is very, very hard we use as much discretion as possible. We can't go about and question the work of people everytime we have a hunch. You can't either, because what might sound like a simple question can lead to misunderstandings, have an impact on someones credibility and overall destroy ones reputation within the site. Once an artwork has proven to violate our rules, we try to take care of it as delicately as possible.

Now I'm not saying you are harsh and can't handle things delicately. The thing is simply that we set the rules and it's also us who will enforce them.

So please do report any suspected rulebreaking, but let us handle the rest so we can control the amount of damage that is caused.

Thank you.

Team GFXartist

 
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Avatar Cami

 02/11/04 @063

Hehehehe, lemmings...
 
Avatar goutweed

 02/11/04 @205

I understand the need to stay on top of people painting over other people's photos and not reporting it. However, I am curious to know where you guys stand on people painting over their own photos and simply not reporting that as part of the process. Is this something worth worrying about?
 
TAKAVAR

 02/11/04 @320

What about painting over your own photo and stateing that you painted over a photo . is there any thing wrong with that ?
is at an artist point of view painting over your own photo is counted as cheap work?
 
Avatar Martin

 02/11/04 @443

If it's clearly stated that the work was painted over a photo of your own, I see no problem. You have to keep in mind that you're among artists here. People will want to know how an image came to life.

edit: don't expect people to be very excited about works painted over a photo though, the majority of our public doesn't attach much value to photo painterovers...

Someone would feel stupid saying you have a great feeling for anatomy, if you simply planted brush strokes on a photograph. People want to make a fair judgement about the difficulty and needed skills. Since there are artists who can draw photorealistic imagery from scratch (http://bbs.popv.net/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=26&id=257280). And people who are good at making a photo-paintover look very painted. You can imagine the world of difference between the skills of the two artists. For the audience this is not always important, but fellow artists need to know.
 
Avatar zombie

 02/11/04 @773

How far does the thing with copyrights go ?
If I see a photography from, let's say some celebrity on the net, and I want to make a painting basing on that picture, could this become dangerous ?
how much needs to be changed ?
I am not talking about paint-over to clear things up

.. so many questions (^___^)
 
RazorBlade456

 02/12/04 @021

To legally call a work your own you have to change at least 30% or more of the piece. An example would be all the spoofs on the Mona Lisa..at least 30% of it has been changed may it be the colors used or the setting. The safest way to keep from getting in trouble for this is to mix reference photos...like use the face from one person and the body of someone else and use a completely different image for the background.

For celebrities it's a little different. The celebrity has to be have been dead over 50-60 years to do an exact photorealism paiting/drawing of the person. This is usually more of an issue if you plan to sell the work or plan to turn into a portfolio to someone. So if you plan to do Elvis or Marylin Manroe, forget it...lol.

This is all info I found out from my Studio Art Advance Placement teacher...so if I'm wrong blame her...lol
 
Pillager

 02/12/04 @710

It's quite sad that people have gone down to this for reputation and popularity :|
Well the warning is in the FAQ if I remember currectly and I think it shouldn't have come down to the need of it to apear in the news as well.
 
Avatar klept

 02/13/04 @014

quote:

Administrator, GFXartist sponsor Martin wrote on 02/11 @443nSince there are artists who can draw photorealistic imagery from scratch (http://bbs.popv.net/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=26&id=257280).n
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the irony is, unless i'm greatly mistaken -- which i definitely am not as i've seen it elsewhere -- this image [http://pop.pcpop.com/upimg/200312221595206215.jpg] is based on a photo of some japanese pop singer lol

so... great feel for anatomy or good reproduction skills?
 
Mukkinese

 02/13/04 @155

What's the point? This may well be a brilliant example of skilled photo-realistic rendering and if it were created in traditional media ( the real world ) it would have an impressive physical presence, but in digital media you're bound to get doubters. Besides a re-touched photo would do the job just as well with a fraction of the work.
 
Avatar amoeba

 02/16/04 @044

quote:

 klept wrote on 02/13 @014n[...]n

the irony is, unless i'm greatly mistaken -- which i definitely am not as i've seen it elsewhere -- this image [http://pop.pcpop.com/upimg/200312221595206215.jpg] is based on a photo of some japanese pop singer lol

so... great feel for anatomy or good reproduction skills?n
Someone also post a link to this demonstration on the GCtalk forum, since my mother language is Chinese I'm quite sure what that demonstration is for. I have post a reply to that thread and would just quickly forward it here:

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It's a beautiful image, but these series of images are actually ripped from a tutorial teaching you how to reproduce a photograph using only a mouse with the aid of lasso tool in photoshp.

There's a photograph used somewhere, probably on the artist desktop, or probably under the background layer. Anyway, it's a practice of photo-reproduction.

The original tutorial site (in Chinese of course):
http://www.chen-i.com/hutong/cangjinge/ps/girl.asp

Thanks for sharing the link, but before forwarding things it's always good to do a quick check for the origin of the information if you are not sure what these things are actually for. Partial facts with misleading comments are just as reliable as all other forms of internet rumors. Sorry for breaking the magic, but I just feel the obligation to demystify certian things such as this one.
 
dcloud

 02/25/04 @687

I have to say I'm glad the GFX Team feels this way. I for one know firsthand what it's like to be fried on the stake. I once did a design and posted it for feedback on another forum and all it took was one slanderous comment from a member there to label me a "ripper".

The one comment ballooned into many more and it was like a virus.

That was all over a year ago and things have calmed down. Mainly my work speaks for itself and people have figured out that it's all original and that one instance was simply a misunderstanding. But this could have all been avoided if the offending poster had simply paused, taken a deep breath, and said "I won't write this comment, until I know for sure."

So I take my hat off to the GFX Team. WTG
 
Avatar bigkate

 02/26/04 @095

Witch Hunt! I couldnt explain it any better myself! Its so true. Granted there are people who do photooverlay there are just as many if not more who do not, and people are quick to judge, either out of ignorance or jealousy even! Im sure i have done the same myself in some instances, but keep such negative comments to myself. So stop hatin..haters
 
Avatar Nappa

 03/03/04 @269

delete
 
Avatar Nappa

 03/03/04 @272

hmmm i didnt know that was a problem i was just starting one of course i wouldnt claim it as my own or even post it here. i figuer if i do a paint over it would some how help ad me in future projects. im still a noob at this and i havent tried real life stuff. So i decide i would do a paint over to better myself at making thing look like they have a 3d feel also to better my light souce's which i have a problem with. Most poeple i talked to told me to do it and thats how they got there candy eye.
 
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